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	<title>Comments on: Santa Monica Mountains &#8211; Deer Creek, Yerba Buena, Decker (&amp; Decker Edison), Encinal (aka lots of steep climbing)</title>
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		<title>By: rallison</title>
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		<dc:creator>rallison</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Aug 2010 05:57:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Sorry for the delay in responding - I&#039;ve been up in the Bay Area and just got back to Long Beach today.

Deer Creek is a brutal little climb.  As for the 13% in Summerson&#039;s book?  Remember that his definition of max grade is a section of grade that extends across the road and lasts for at least 10 feet.  As such, Deer Creek probably has pitches that get steeper than 13%.  With that said, Deer Creek is relentless and tough.  The one saving grace is that it is relatively short.  I think I would still classify Tuna as tougher...but, I have not climbed Deer Creek for a long time, so I can&#039;t say for sure.  And yeah, Las Flores is always a walk in the park ;)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry for the delay in responding &#8211; I&#8217;ve been up in the Bay Area and just got back to Long Beach today.</p>
<p>Deer Creek is a brutal little climb.  As for the 13% in Summerson&#8217;s book?  Remember that his definition of max grade is a section of grade that extends across the road and lasts for at least 10 feet.  As such, Deer Creek probably has pitches that get steeper than 13%.  With that said, Deer Creek is relentless and tough.  The one saving grace is that it is relatively short.  I think I would still classify Tuna as tougher&#8230;but, I have not climbed Deer Creek for a long time, so I can&#8217;t say for sure.  And yeah, Las Flores is always a walk in the park <img src='http://www.toughascent.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Paul</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Aug 2010 14:41:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Back again.
Been meaning to do Deer Creek for a long time, if only to be fair , as I&#039;ve descended it a few times.
The book(Summerson) says max 13% but I thought one or two pitches went past that. Then again I was tired from Monday evening.
It really does keep going doesn&#039;t it? A brief, 30 yard, respite about 1/3rd of the way up but then back to the grindstone. Seemed harder than Tuna but I didn&#039;t need any extended standing. It&#039;s just that lack of a break that gets you and having to sit down on 12% to wipe the sweat from your eyes.  
I&#039;ll try my old adversary Las Flores on Thursday, should be a walk in the park:)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Back again.<br />
Been meaning to do Deer Creek for a long time, if only to be fair , as I&#8217;ve descended it a few times.<br />
The book(Summerson) says max 13% but I thought one or two pitches went past that. Then again I was tired from Monday evening.<br />
It really does keep going doesn&#8217;t it? A brief, 30 yard, respite about 1/3rd of the way up but then back to the grindstone. Seemed harder than Tuna but I didn&#8217;t need any extended standing. It&#8217;s just that lack of a break that gets you and having to sit down on 12% to wipe the sweat from your eyes.<br />
I&#8217;ll try my old adversary Las Flores on Thursday, should be a walk in the park:)</p>
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